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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: All India Railway Time-Table?

Date: 24 May 1999 05:20:55 -0500


> Can anyone of ye India-based friends manage to lay your hands on a
full
> and detailed bradshaw? I'd be highly obliged. I'll send you the funds
in
> Indian rupees the monent you can tell me how much.

Shankar, by July/ August/Sept, it will be soon 'that time of the year'
when the new
tts start arriving and your truly would be pleading with the vendor on
Pune platform
1 to PLEAAASE keep a copy when it comes. Wait till then ? This is the
wrong time to
ask.

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: MCT - ADI SHATABDI EXP.

Date: 24 May 1999 05:32:04 -0500


> Hello Gang,
>
> Sarosh & myself have travelled twice on ADI - MCT Shatabdi Exp. on our
> return from Steam Fanning trips at Sabarmati & Udaipur. It was a
thrill to
> travel in it the first time with just three stops (I think it was
Anand).
> But two years later this train was a pain with all the stops you
> mentioned. I remember the unauthorised passengers from Vapi standing
in
> the aisle and were served dinner by the car attendants (who were
bribed).

What train does a Mumbaikar take if he has to attend a day business to
say Vapi or Valsad
and return to MCT by the night ? Shatabdi seems to fit the bill
perfectly. There is a need
to a 'reverse' Karnavati type of train which starts from MCT early in
the morning, reaches
ADI by 1400 hrs and returns to MCT by 2300 Hrs. Is there a day train
'intercity express'
type of train in the making or is there one which is already in
existence ? With the Deccan
Queen/ Pragati Exp styled rakes ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Hubli - Ankola line

Date: 24 May 1999 05:41:07 -0500


> Ankola is two stations south of Karwar on the KR line. So, this would
give
> a direct BG connection between Mangalore/Kankanadi - Hubli via
Udupi-Ankola.
> I am assuming that Mangalore-Sakleshpur is still under conversion
and that
> Kulem-Castle Rock hasn't been opened to passanger traffic yet.

The Hubli Ankola line would have a heavy ghat section. Both the
Sakleshpur and
Caste Rock ghats require Bankers.
There is also some talk of a Kolhapur - Ratnagiri line but nothing
concrete has
come up yet.

> IMHO, the Pune-Ernakulam Exp. would be using this link and would
have the
> following route -
> Miraj-Belgaum-Londa-Hubli-Ankola-Kankanadi-Calicut-Shoranur-Ernakulam.

In all probabilities it would take Londa - Castle Rock - Kulem - Madgaon
section. The ghat is ready and just waiting for some safety formalities
to be
completed. However till this ghat is cleared for passenger traffic, this
train
would take the usual, Solapur - Guntakal route.
Will keep you posted on the latest on this train soon.

Apurva

From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: All India Railway Time-Table?

Date: 24 May 1999 07:18:27 -0500




>From: Shankar <shankie@emirates.email
.
.
>
>Horror upon horrors! When I visited India in Nov 1997, I confidently
>walked up to the Wheelers stall on p/f 1 of Poona station, only to be
>shown an abstract bradshaw! It was 'Newman's Indian bradshaw' alright,
>the publisher was 'W.Newman' of Calcutta alright, but it was an
>abstract, just like the TAAG. I protested quite loudly, only to be told
>off rather curtly: ah yes, that detailed thing is not published any
>more.
>
>Is this true, or is the abstract an optional edition for those who do
>not want the real thing?

Fortunately, for train nuts like us the Bradshaw is still being
published -
Shanku was kind enough to get me one from his last India trip a couple
of
months back. Ah, the glorious, multi-colored All India time-table!!
How I
wish I had preserved one of these :-(. The Bradshaw seems more
authentic
than TAAG - it fails to provide the route KMs for quite a few sections
and I
have to resort to the zonal TTs for this information. I agree with
Harsh
that with the emergence of new zones, it's going to tougher to get hold
of
all the zonal TTs especially for "overseas" folks like us.

Incidently, when are the new TTs coming out this year?

Vijay



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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: MG double tracking ?

Date: 24 May 1999 08:37:38 -0500




>From: "Sankaran Kumar" <sankaran_kumar@hotmail.email
>To: irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Re: MG double tracking ?
>Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:18:36 PDT
>
..
..
> >Tambaram to Chengalpattu - 2 electrified MG lines (one for suburban)
> > 1 un-electrified BG line
>
>In fact Tambaram to Chengalpattu is 3 electrified MG lines and 1 (being
electrified) BG line. A pair of MG lines is for the sole use of the
Tambaram-Chengalpattu EMU's.
>

That's interesting! The last time I traveled on this route about 7
years ago, Tambaram-Chengalpattu had two electrified MG lines. When did
add a 3rd MG line?

Vijay


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From: Vijay Balasubramanian <>

Subject: Re: HWH - CLAT Super Delux Express

Date: 24 May 1999 08:49:47 -0500


>Gang !
>
>I just have family visiting from Calcutta who have arrived on
>the 2102 Up Super Deluxe. They are quite impressed about the
>train, which is a sort of 'reversed' Gitanjali, actually it is
>faster.
>2859 and 2102 both leave at 0600 from CSTM and HWH
>respectively. 2859 reaches HWH at 1500 Hrs while the 2102 is
>supposed to reach CLAT at approx 1400 Hrs. The number of stops
>are apparently the same.

Let your family know that the Gitanjali of yestyears was nearly 3
hours faster than the present superdeluxe with probably half the
fares and 5-6 less halts. Is this progress?


>Family is impressed about the new rake (with new linen !) and
>the enthusiastic but still raw catering staff . Apparently
>there is no panty car but the the food is served warm by
>Shatabadi style food warmers in casseroles. The inexperienced
>catering staff mixed up orders with veg - non veg reaching the
>wrong passengers.

Atleast something is good about this train :-)


The rake has a livery ! Orange and yellow
>(as per one member of the family) or Red and white as per
>others (that seems correct - the latest {Jan 1999 !} IR mag
>has a small pic of the inauguration). I will confirm that
>there was a generator car.

I was somewhat disappointed with the picture - I expected a 'long
range shot' showing the loco. and rake. The livery is, indeed, red-n-
white. The article comments about the popularity of this train
indicating it would run full even if made daily. That's promising
news for Pushkar and me - we are hoping for an GENUINE Rajdhani-type
train via Allahabad that can cut down the running time to less than
30 hours!


Vijay


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From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <>

Subject: Re: intro

Date: 24 May 1999 09:33:40 -0500


hvc wrote:
>
> Hello Tim,
>
> Welcome to the list. Iam sure you'll hear lots and lots of current and
> nostalgia filled stories of IR here in due course and we look forward
to
> hearing your experiences as well.
>
> Regarding the German video that you mentioned, do you by any chance
remember
> the title and the producer, or where one could get a copy today.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Harsh Vardhan
>


Harsh,
The video you ask about is simply called "Steam in India".It was
produced by
Eisenbahn Video
D-7104 Obersulm
P.O.111
Phone:07134-14294
Fax:07134-4280

This is all the info I have on it.It must be at least ten years old,so
whether this co. exsist anymore is beyond me.
National Geographic did a wonderful show for PBS titled "the Great
Indian Railway" about three years ago and is available on video.This IS
a must see.A big budget production.


Tim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim & Anita Wakeman <tmwake@warwick.email
> To: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
> Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: intro
>
> >Tim & Anita Wakeman wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello list,
> >>
> >> I'm new here,so let me tell you all how I got here.
> >> I first became interested in Indias railways back in the late 70s'
when
> >> I came across a TRAINS mag from the early 70s' with an article on
> >> photographing trains in India.It claimed there was enough steam
engines
> >> to last to the year 2000.Maybe.Then I found a video in the local
library
> >> shot by a German company.It was one of the most amazing videos I
have
> >> seen to this day.I never thought I would be able to visit this far
away
> >> land.Then an ironic thing happened.I met a women at work that I
became
> >> close friends with.In 1994 we traveled to India together to be
married
> >> in front of her family in the small village of Gandhi Nagar just
north
> >> of Vellore,Tamil Nadu.I slept the first day there from the long
trip.At
> >> night I was not totally asleep.Then something jolted me out of the
bed
> >> at the wee hours of the am.Mixed in with the occasional single
blast air
> >> horns I could hear off in the distance,came a shrieking steam
whistle
> >> through the night sky.At first I thought it was something else,but
then
> >> it sounded again in departure.The light puffing of the locomotive
then
> >> was audible.WOW!I thought.I knew there was a good chance steam was
still
> >> here,but steam was still,RIGHT HERE!The search was on.More on that
stuff
> >> later,if you all do'nt mind some stories.I have been back there
twice
> >> since then.Once,for family only,(besides,heat was too extreme at
the
> >> time of year),and again, for family and fun.Boy,did I have fun!
> >> Zoom into 1999,one child later and busy employment.We live in New
York
> >> State,U.S.A. Getting RR info on India is by and least most
> >> difficult.Then I broke down and got ourselves this computer.I saw
> >> through family and friends the wealth of railroading I could do
right at
> >> home.For two months or more I have been gradually getting into the
> >> railways of India on the web.I came across "minirails",which led me
to
> >> Apurvas' web site and this list.I figured there must be India
railfans
> >> someplace out there,and here you are!I must say,I am most certainly
glad
> >> to be here.
> >>
> >> Tim Wakeman
> >

From: Anil Balchandani <>

Subject: Indian Stamps on Locomotives

Date: 24 May 1999 10:35:04 -0500


<A HREF="http://business.fortunecity.com/koch/421/IndianStamps/stampsLocomotives">http://business.fortunecity.com/koch/421/IndianStamps/stampsLocomotives</A>.
html

Anil Balchandani
anil.balchandani@fnc.email
(pls note the new email format)

From: Sankaran Kumar <>

Subject: Re: MG double tracking ?

Date: 24 May 1999 11:13:44 -0500


Apurva:

The station opposite Chennai Central is Chennai (Madras) Park ("Poonga"
in
Tamil). There is indeed a Buckingham Canal which is distinct from the
Cooum
River. The Buckingham Canal flows north-south and connects Chennai to
the
Pulicat Lake in A.P.'s Nellore district. It flows between the Chennai
Central main line and suburban terminii and was once used for water
cargo
transportation. The Cooum river flows west-east and meets up with the
Buckingham Canal somewhere south of Chennai Central. The Buckingham
Canal
and the Cooum certainly contribute to the nasal experience in Chennai.

>From: Apurva Bahadur <iti@vsnl.email
>To: Sankaran Kumar <sankaran_kumar@hotmail.email
>CC: irfca@cs.email
>Subject: Re: MG double tracking ?
>Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:46:57 +0530
>
>I have taken the MG EMU from Nungambakkam to the MG station opposite to

>Chennai Central (which is ?) in 1995, and I recall that there was a BG
line
>but no BG no platform at
>Nungambakkam. The ride was along water front areas with the strong
smells
>of Chennai wafting through the MG EMU. I can confidentially say that
>Chennai wins hand down on the
>smell front, even the Mahim creek bridge at Bandra South (Mumbai)
entrance
>pales in comparison. The other great place to catch the strong sewer
smell
>(although not on the
>railway) is the Oovam river (flowing next to the hotel I was staying
in)
>which the Madrasis call the 'Buckhigham canal' !
>
>Apurva
>
>
>
>


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From: Anand Krishnan <>

Subject: MG tracking and a welcome to Tim

Date: 24 May 1999 16:18:44 -0500


Hi all,

>>In fact Tambaram to Chengalpattu is 3 electrified MG lines and 1
(being electrified) BG line. A pair of MG lines is for the sole use of
the Tambaram-Chengalpattu EMU's.
>>
>
>That's interesting! The last time I traveled on this route about 7
years ago, Tambaram-Chengalpattu had two electrified MG lines. When did
add a 3rd MG line?
>
There are 3 lines alright, but 2 MG and 1 BG. On this line there
is no dedicated line for EMUs. It is only upto Tambaram that this
dedication of lines are followed. From Tambaram onwards it is one UP and
line and one Down line. Any news about the easing of the speed
restrictions on the BG line, now that it has been quite some time since
it has been in use.


........and BTW welcome to Tim and Anita. I am sure you are going to
have a good time listening to the super railnuts like Apurva, Sankar,
Vijay, Shanku, Sridhar, Viraf, Mr.Walker and a host of others. Welcome
aboard.

Kind regards,
Anand


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From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: MLR steam loco.

Date: 24 May 1999 20:51:43 -0500



Hi,

It seems that there was an article in last week's Afternoon newspaper
that
the plinthed Matheran Steam Locomotive in Parel works has been
completely
overhauled & will be shifted to Gwalior where it will work the Gwalior -
Sheopur Kalan line.

But what my good friend I.S.Anand informs me is that the photograph
accompaning this article showed a Kalka - Simla Diesel being loaded on a
flat truck.

Harsh any idea? Appu have you read this article?

Have a nice day

Viraf





==========================
Viraf Mulla
C-20/14, Jeevan Bima Nagar,
Borivali (West)
Mumbai 400103
Tel: +91-22-8954510
E-mail: sncf@godrej.email
==========================

From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <>

Subject: Re: MCT - ADI SHATABDI EXP.

Date: 24 May 1999 21:23:27 -0500


>
> What train does a Mumbaikar take if he has to attend a day business to
say Vapi or Valsad
> and return to MCT by the night ? Shatabdi seems to fit the bill
perfectly. There is a need
> to a 'reverse' Karnavati type of train which starts from MCT early in
the morning, reaches
> ADI by 1400 hrs and returns to MCT by 2300 Hrs. Is there a day train
'intercity express'
> type of train in the making or is there one which is already in
existence ? With the Deccan
> Queen/ Pragati Exp styled rakes ?

> Apurva


Appu, my collegue before he joined Godrej had a workshop in Vapi and he
used to commute everyday by taking 9215 - Saurashtra Exp. dept.7.45 arr.
Vapi 11.20. or 9023 - Firozpur Janta Exp. dept.7.25 arr. Vapi 10.57.

On his return the only choice was 9024 - Firozpur Janta Exp. dept. Vapi
16.48 arr. Dadar 20.05. If he missed this train then he prefered to stay
back in Vapi rather than catch 46 - passenger which would arr. in
Bandra
Terminus at 20.50 hrs (if running right time).

Both 9011 & 9012 Gujarat Expresses were too early and 2009 - Shatabdi
Exp
apart from being early was too expensive for him and his co commuters.

Viraf

From: S Pai <>

Subject: URL for FAQ

Date: 24 May 1999 21:44:21 -0500



For the couple of persons who said they had misplaced the URL for the
FAQ:

<A HREF="http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/syria/716">http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/syria/716</A>

Thanks to all those who have been sending in corrections and
suggestions. Please keep them coming in, and don't lose heart if I am
tardy in incorporating them into the site. Also, please don't take it
personally if I don't take up all suggestions on reorganizing or
rewriting the sections or on the style of the document. I'll try my
best, but it's obviously impossible to satisfy everyone in some of
these matters, and some discretion has to be exercised on spending my
time between adding new material or making corrections versus
rewriting things for stylistic purposes. Besides, the organization of
the FAQ is likely to change a lot when it is part of the upcoming
IRFCA website.

--Satish

From: S Pai <>

Subject: book -- steam photos

Date: 24 May 1999 22:02:50 -0500



I recently came across a book, "Steam Railways of the World" by Keith
Strickland, published by Wrens Park of the UK. It caught my eye in the
used-book store where I was browsing because it had a good picture of
two WP's side-by-side. The book has black-and-white photographs of
steam throughout the world, organized by country. There are about a
dozen or so photographs from India/Nepal, and about twenty from
Pakistan. The book was published quite recently (last year, I think).
The author is an amateur photographer who has got great results with
an ordinary 35mm SLR; the focus and resolution on some of the
photographs is excellent. I thought I'd mention the book here. I
hadn't heard of it earlier, and I don't know how widely available it
is or whether there is a paperback version (supplies of UK books are
a bit spotty in the US).

The two WP's on the cover are at Lucknow. One bears the hand-painted
name (in Hindi), "Sitare Himanchal", between the buffers. Other locos
include YP's, a 2'6" 4-8-0, #779 of DHR, and 2' Bagnall NM class locos.
The photographs of Pakistani locos include SPS and SGS class locos (the
main passenger and goods steam locos of PR) and a bunch of others.
Other regions covered include Turkey, China, Zimbabwe, some European
countries, and the Americas.

--Satish

From: Sridhar Shankarnarayan <>

Subject: Re: Sightings

Date: 24 May 1999 23:08:07 -0500


At 05:45 PM 5/25/99 +0530, you wrote:

>
> Gang !
> * Lonavala - Pune EMU pulling into Khadki station and subsequent
departure
> while the level crossing gate was still closed. I was amazed on how
quiet
> the EMU is. It almost creeps up on the rail without any warning at
all.
> The level crossing gate was closed for over 20 minutes, I got late
for an
> appointment, but it was well worth the wait.


Only a true railfan would make the last statement. I feel the same way.

>
> * On the Sangam bridge I saw a WDM 2 creeping slowly towards
Shivajinagar
> with a BCN load. It must have left Pune Up yard and sighted the
Shivaji
> Nagar distant signal at danger, so was very slow. But as the loco
left
the
> bridge, the signal aspect changed to clear through the middle Up
line and
> the driver responded with slamming the throttle fully open. The
Alco gave
> an outstanding display of rich black smoke (the clouds with the
oily
black
> boiling texture) to force the sluggish BCN rake (which was an empty
cement
> special) into a scurry. The smokescreen blocked out the view of the
rest
> of train, with the loco and the rake appearing charging through the
black
> cloud. It is rare for a WDM 2 to be so impressive. The overcast
gloomy
> weather of Pune helped to preserve the smoke for a long time. Alas
I had
> no camera at hand to shoot a picture which would have easily won
the
> Wormald Open (which is an international contest about the smokiest
Alco in
> the world, details on
<<A HREF="http://www.celorio.com/>http://www.celorio.com/">http://www.celorio.com/>http://www.celorio.com/</A> ).
> The prize performer loco was the WDM 2, 17158 of the SCR, the shed
details
> were not clear, but from the defaced look of the shed insignia this
was
> one of the displaced Gooty locos which now home at Guntakal and are
yet to
> receive a fresh coat of paint.


It is great to hear that. In December, only one of the 6 WDM2s (the lead
loco
for the northbound KK) seemed capable of putting on such a display. None
of
the
SR units do this kind of thing anymore.

>
> One observation: An electrical company (whose switches I use) uses CBE
in
> their address on the carton instead of Coimbatore. It is great to see
railway
> station codes being adapted in non railway areas.


CBE is used quite frequently in Coimbatore for whatever reason. The
erstwhile
Cheran Transport Corp (now called RTC division N or something to that
effect),
used 191/CBE to identify the fleet homed in Coimbatore.

-Sridhar


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sridhar Shankar
GSB MBA'99
The University of Chicago
1616 E. 50th Place, Apt. 13A
Chicago, IL 60615
(773) 752 1131

From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: book -- steam photos

Date: 25 May 1999 01:05:02 -0500


Dear Satish,
I have the book and it is highly recommended
especially for the connoisseurs of B&W pictures.

Iam glad that someone like Keith is still interested in the aura and
romance
of B&W pictures towards the end of the millennium. His pictures also
regularly feature in the `The Darjeeling Mail', the quarterly magazine
of
the Darjeeling Himalayan Rly. Society, UK.

The PR pictures are just out of the world, better than any in colour
that I
have seen.

The book costs GBP 14.99 and for those of you who may be interested,
here's
Keith's Email kvs@victrow.email

Harsh



-----Original Message-----
From: S Pai <s_pai@bigfoot.email
To: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:10 PM
Subject: book -- steam photos


>
>I recently came across a book, "Steam Railways of the World" by Keith
>Strickland, published by Wrens Park of the UK. It caught my eye in the
>used-book store where I was browsing because it had a good picture of
>two WP's side-by-side. The book has black-and-white photographs of
>steam throughout the world, organized by country. There are about a
>dozen or so photographs from India/Nepal, and about twenty from
>Pakistan. The book was published quite recently (last year, I think).
>The author is an amateur photographer who has got great results with
>an ordinary 35mm SLR; the focus and resolution on some of the
>photographs is excellent. I thought I'd mention the book here. I
>hadn't heard of it earlier, and I don't know how widely available it
>is or whether there is a paperback version (supplies of UK books are
>a bit spotty in the US).
>
>The two WP's on the cover are at Lucknow. One bears the hand-painted
>name (in Hindi), "Sitare Himanchal", between the buffers. Other locos
>include YP's, a 2'6" 4-8-0, #779 of DHR, and 2' Bagnall NM class locos.
>The photographs of Pakistani locos include SPS and SGS class locos (the
>main passenger and goods steam locos of PR) and a bunch of others.
>Other regions covered include Turkey, China, Zimbabwe, some European
>countries, and the Americas.
>
>--Satish
>
>
>

From: poras p.saklatwalla <>

Subject: Re: MLR steam loco.

Date: 25 May 1999 01:09:30 -0500


Viraf,
I read this article and also saw the loco at Parel shed whilst going to
Mumbai V.T. It is indeed the Matheran Loco that was plinthed at V.T. a
few years back.


PORAS P.SAKLATWALLA
TEL :5773535/3636
EXT :4226/4232/4237

From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: MCT - ADI SHATABDI EXP.

Date: 25 May 1999 01:10:11 -0500



>Appu, my collegue before he joined Godrej had a workshop in Vapi and he
>used to commute everyday by taking 9215 - Saurashtra Exp. dept.7.45
arr.
>Vapi 11.20. or 9023 - Firozpur Janta Exp. dept.7.25 arr. Vapi 10.57.
>
>On his return the only choice was 9024 - Firozpur Janta Exp. dept. Vapi
>16.48 arr. Dadar 20.05. If he missed this train then he prefered to
stay
>back in Vapi rather than catch 46 - passenger which would arr. in
Bandra
>Terminus at 20.50 hrs (if running right time).
>


Is the 9024 so punctual that a daily traveller can bank on it?
But on second thoughts perhaps trains like the Janta, Dehradun and
Amritsar
Dadar Exp. run more for the MST holders than for long distance
travellers.

Harsh

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: MLR steam loco.

Date: 25 May 1999 01:34:30 -0500




"VIRAF P.. MULLA" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It seems that there was an article in last week's Afternoon newspaper
that
> the plinthed Matheran Steam Locomotive in Parel works has been
completely
> overhauled & will be shifted to Gwalior where it will work the Gwalior
-
> Sheopur Kalan line.

For whose benefit ? GWL NG is hardly a tourist oriented track. I am glad
that
the IR is reversing it's stand about some steamers atleast. I have not
come
across this article but if IS Anand were to mail (snail !) me this
clipping, I
could scan and upload for everyone's viewing pleasure.

> But what my good friend I.S.Anand informs me is that the photograph
> accompaning this article showed a Kalka - Simla Diesel being loaded on
a
> flat truck.

We see a occasional Kurduwadi ZDM 4s on a flat truck being hauled to
Matunga
workshops.


Apurva

From: hvc <>

Subject: Re: MLR steam loco.

Date: 25 May 1999 01:35:34 -0500


Hello all,
That is sensational news, Viraf, to say the least but
before
commenting further I would like to read the complete article first if
that
is possible?

Himachal Tourism has been canvassing support for steam traction on the
Simla line for a long time but Northern Rly. didn't seem to be
interested.
Lately it seems that the pressure is being applied by Ministry of
Tourism.
To the best of my knowledge only three of Simla tanks have survived. Two
KC
class have been plinthed at Ambala and Gwalior respectively and the one
ZF
at NRM. The gauge is 2'6".

Matheran is 2'0" gauge and only the O&K tanks can work there because of
the
tight curves. As far as I remember, you only broke the news that the
Parel
MLR loco has been sold to a UK preservation group.

All this is very confusing?!!? Can you pls help by emailing the whole
article if possible.

This loco is it is still there at Parel can very well work on the
Gwalior
line which is 2'0" only but who on earth will go to see that loco at
Gwalior
which is hot like hell for ten months a year(well, Iam well placed as I
have
to go there 2-3 times a month for work anyway!). Will try to find out
from
the ARM there on my next visit.

Harsh


-----Original Message-----
From: VIRAF P.. MULLA <sncf@godrej.email
To: irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 7:41 PM
Subject: MLR steam loco.


>
>Hi,
>
>It seems that there was an article in last week's Afternoon newspaper
that
>the plinthed Matheran Steam Locomotive in Parel works has been
completely
>overhauled & will be shifted to Gwalior where it will work the Gwalior
-
>Sheopur Kalan line.
>
>But what my good friend I.S.Anand informs me is that the photograph
>accompaning this article showed a Kalka - Simla Diesel being loaded on
a
>flat truck.
>
>Harsh any idea? Appu have you read this article?
>
>Have a nice day
>
>Viraf
>
>
>
>
>
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