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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: [Fwd: 2C Cab

Date: 18 Jan 1999 09:12:01 -0500

Why is such interesting mail sent to me and not to the whole group ?

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 10:35:38 -0500

Hello,

Anyone on the list have an idea of what Asansol would be like for
trainspotting? Seems to me it would be a decent spot for it (although a
grimy city to visit), so a day trip might be in order when I am India. I
will be in Calcutta, so a quick trip up on the morning Shatabdi to
Bokaro
would get me there fast and give me the whole day. It might also be
easier
to take some casual pictures there than it is in Howrah station.

By the way, have you all seen the livery on the locomotive now on the
contents page of the Indian Railways page at
<A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?</A> That blue scheme's
pretty
nice. The picture on the front page (the WAP5(?) hovering in mid-air
(with
panto raised!) in front of the Taj Mahal is kind of cheesy though :-)

Thanks,
Shanku

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: Is it a WDG2 ?]

Date: 18 Jan 1999 10:59:50 -0500

The half-octagon nose is common on the EMD SD series locomotives in
North
America. In fact, the description almost nearly matches the SD70.
Perhaps it
is a prototype version of the WDP2 (which would probably look a lot like
the
SD70, since the GT46MAC is loosely based on the SD70)?

-----Original Message-----
From: Apurva Bahadur [mailto:iti@vsnl.email
Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 8:46 AM
To: IRFCA
Subject: [Fwd: Is it a WDG2 ?]

What is this loco that he sighted ?

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:41:49 -0500

>
> Hello,
>
> Anyone on the list have an idea of what Asansol would be like for
> trainspotting? Seems to me it would be a decent spot for it
> (although a
> grimy city to visit), so a day trip might be in order when I
> am India. I
> will be in Calcutta, so a quick trip up on the morning
> Shatabdi to Bokaro
> would get me there fast and give me the whole day. It might
> also be easier
> to take some casual pictures there than it is in Howrah station.

Should be a decent station for trainspotting. It has a total of 5
platforms
for serving trains on the Howrah-Mughalsarai trunk route and a couple
more
(towards the west-end) for trains to and from Adra. There is an
electric
loco. shed on the west side. The Shatabdi reaches Asansol just 10 mts.
after the Calcutta/Bhubaneswar bound Raj. (via Gaya) pass through the
station. So, if these Rajs. are late by 10 mts. or more, you can catch
them
at Asansol. If you land up on Mon., Wed., Thu., Fri. or Sun. you would
see
the 19 coach, WAP5(?)-hauled Calcutta Raj. go past this station without
stopping. On the other two days, the 12 coach, WAP1(?)-hauled
Bhubaneswar
Raj. halts here for 12 mts; you can also spot the twin WDM2-hauled
Calcutta
Raj. via Patna going past Asansol around 10.00 am. If you land-up on a
Wed./Sun., you could also catch the Delhi-bound Raj. via Patna with the
WDM2s around 4.00 pm.

If you are lucky, you could feast your eyes on a variety of locos. -
WAM1/2/3/4, WAP1/5, WAG2/4, WDM2. Any others?

>
> By the way, have you all seen the livery on the locomotive now on the
> contents page of the Indian Railways page at
> <A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?</A> That blue
> scheme's pretty
> nice.

This is the Shatabdi exp. in its original livery.

>The picture on the front page (the WAP5(?) hovering in

Can some clarify whether this is a WAP5 or WAP6?

Vijay

From: Balasubramanian, Vijay <>

Subject: Re: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 11:41:49 -0500

From: Harsh Vardhan <>

Subject: Re: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:24:23 -0500

Asansol is a great place to spot the trains especially the massive coal,
steel and mineral freights. You can see what is latest on Indian motive
power here(WAGs 5/7/9 and WAPs 1-5). Moreover eastern railway sheds have
a
great tradition of naming the locos and painting them beautifully.

I understand that Asansol former steam loco shed a restored HGS
locomotive
and some WGs as well. I you get a chance, could you get the maximum
possible
details on these. Photographs of course will be an added bonus.

When is your visit scheduled?

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: Shanku Niyogi <shankun@microsoft.email
To: 'irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:38 AM
Subject: Asansol

>Hello,
>
>Anyone on the list have an idea of what Asansol would be like for
>trainspotting? Seems to me it would be a decent spot for it (although a
>grimy city to visit), so a day trip might be in order when I am India.
I
>will be in Calcutta, so a quick trip up on the morning Shatabdi to
Bokaro
>would get me there fast and give me the whole day. It might also be
easier
>to take some casual pictures there than it is in Howrah station.
>
>By the way, have you all seen the livery on the locomotive now on the
>contents page of the Indian Railways page at
><A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?</A> That blue scheme's
pretty
>nice. The picture on the front page (the WAP5(?) hovering in mid-air
(with
>panto raised!) in front of the Taj Mahal is kind of cheesy though :-)
>
>Thanks,
>Shanku
>

From: Shanku Niyogi <>

Subject: Re: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:57:58 -0500

I am visiting India from the 8th to the 27th of February. So I will
probably
go to Asansol somewhere around the middle of the month.

Steam locos would be good to see, indeed. I'm not sure what I can do in
the
way of photographs, since I don't have "official" permission, and can go
only as far as casual photographs - and monetary "donations" :) - will
take
me. I hear they're specifically not too happy about photography near
sheds.

-----Original Message-----
From: Harsh Vardhan [mailto:champa@del3.email
Sent: Monday, January 18, 1999 12:24 PM
To: Shanku Niyogi; irfca@cs.email
Subject: Re: Asansol

Asansol is a great place to spot the trains especially the massive coal,
steel and mineral freights. You can see what is latest on Indian motive
power here(WAGs 5/7/9 and WAPs 1-5). Moreover eastern railway sheds have
a
great tradition of naming the locos and painting them beautifully.

I understand that Asansol former steam loco shed a restored HGS
locomotive
and some WGs as well. I you get a chance, could you get the maximum
possible
details on these. Photographs of course will be an added bonus.

When is your visit scheduled?

Harsh

-----Original Message-----
From: Shanku Niyogi <shankun@microsoft.email
To: 'irfca@cs.email <irfca@cs.email
Date: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 10:38 AM
Subject: Asansol

>Hello,
>
>Anyone on the list have an idea of what Asansol would be like for
>trainspotting? Seems to me it would be a decent spot for it (although a
>grimy city to visit), so a day trip might be in order when I am India.
I
>will be in Calcutta, so a quick trip up on the morning Shatabdi to
Bokaro
>would get me there fast and give me the whole day. It might also be
easier
>to take some casual pictures there than it is in Howrah station.
>
>By the way, have you all seen the livery on the locomotive now on the
>contents page of the Indian Railways page at
><A HREF="http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?">http://www.indianrailway.com/railway/index1.htm?</A> That blue scheme's
pretty
>nice. The picture on the front page (the WAP5(?) hovering in mid-air
(with
>panto raised!) in front of the Taj Mahal is kind of cheesy though :-)
>
>Thanks,
>Shanku
>

From: Jishnu Mukerji <>

Subject: Re: Asansol

Date: 18 Jan 1999 13:03:34 -0500

Balasubramanian, Vijay wrote (about Asansol Jn.):
>
> Should be a decent station for trainspotting. It has a total of 5
platforms
> for serving trains on the Howrah-Mughalsarai trunk route and a couple
more
> (towards the west-end) for trains to and from Adra. There is an
electric
> loco. shed on the west side. The Shatabdi reaches Asansol just 10
mts.
> after the Calcutta/Bhubaneswar bound Raj. (via Gaya) pass through the
> station. So, if these Rajs. are late by 10 mts. or more, you can
catch them
> at Asansol. If you land up on Mon., Wed., Thu., Fri. or Sun. you
would see
> the 19 coach, WAP5(?)-hauled Calcutta Raj. go past this station
without
> stopping. On the other two days, the 12 coach, WAP1(?)-hauled
Bhubaneswar
> Raj. halts here for 12 mts; you can also spot the twin WDM2-hauled
Calcutta
> Raj. via Patna going past Asansol around 10.00 am. If you land-up on
a
> Wed./Sun., you could also catch the Delhi-bound Raj. via Patna with
the
> WDM2s around 4.00 pm.
>
> If you are lucky, you could feast your eyes on a variety of locos. -
> WAM1/2/3/4, WAP1/5, WAG2/4, WDM2. Any others?

An interesting add-on, if you are into catching trains travelling at
speed would be to jog down to Ranigunj, Andal, Waria or Durgapur and
spend some time there on the platform catching the Rajdhanis going by at
speed. This would be worthwhile only if you were doing some video/sound
recordings.

One of my everlasting memories is of standing on the platform of Andal
Jn. and watching 81Up Air-conditioned express zip by at speed [new ICF
rake with Rajdhani-like colors complete with one of those two coach
Restaurant/Kitchen sets!] pulled by a sparkling clean WP! This was
before Asansol - Burdwan 25kV AC was energized - so it was quite a while
back.

Good luck!

Jishnu.

From: KRISHNA T S <>

Subject: Re: Does it have vestibuled coaches?

Date: 18 Jan 1999 19:26:16 -0500

hi guys

The HA coaches can also be seen on the 1063-64 Chennai Express, GT,
Tamilnadu, Chennai-Bangalore Exp/Mail, Howrah Mail, Pandian Exp, Nilgiri

Exp

Krishna

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>> > with a composite HA coach (HA is a combination of AC First
>> and AC 2 tier
>> > Sleeper for the uninitiated), an AC 2T coach and two AC 3T
>> coaches, one of
>> > which is for Tatkal Reservation upto Delhi and beyond.
>>
>> The HA class seems to be a clever idea. I suppose there is
>> not enough passengers for
>> the 1st AC to justify and entire coach, while the 2 AC and 3
>> AC passengers are usually
>> are excess.
>>
>
>The composite 1st AC - 2nd AC 2T coach has been on the rails for over
20
>years. When the Bombay - Jammu Tawi superfast exp. was introdued in
1977 it
>had two of these coaches. The last time I spotted the Tamilnadu Exp.
at
>Itarsi (summer of '95) it had one such coach (in addition to two more
AC 2T
>coaches)
>
>Vijay
>

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From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: 2C Cab

Date: 18 Jan 1999 19:29:48 -0500

> I was very surprised that the whole set-up
> inside the 2C cabin was different from 2A. The panels were no more
> upright to the driver. It was like all controls on a table. The
throttle
> lever was poking out like a joy stick.....

This new control panel was designed by the National Institute
of Design at Ahmedabad. The loco seen was probably the first
prototype by DLW. The APR-NOV 1998 Newsletter from NID has
a B&W pic of the mockup for the cab interior.

--
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Telco Premises : Pimpri : PUNE : 411 018 : INDIA
TEL 91(20)702534 : FAX 91(20)773191
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: 2C Cab

Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:18:50 -0500

Jayant S wrote:

> > I was very surprised that the whole set-up
> > inside the 2C cabin was different from 2A. The panels were no more
> > upright to the driver. It was like all controls on a table. The
throttle
> > lever was poking out like a joy stick.....
>
> This new control panel was designed by the National Institute
> of Design at Ahmedabad. The loco seen was probably the first
> prototype by DLW. The APR-NOV 1998 Newsletter from NID has
> a B&W pic of the mockup for the cab interior.

A scan of this pic possible ? Even a hand drawn sketch /engineering view
would
illustrate the idea better. Is this a aircraft type throttle (T bar) ?

Apurva

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Train sounds

Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:25:50 -0500

Madhav Acharya wrote:

> Apurva
>
> Just got to hear the train sounds. WDM2-1.mp3 is just fabulous ! The
> chugging
> of the diesel is really music to one's ears. How did you manage to
get the
> wheel
> sounds towards the end of the track ? did you hang a microphone from
off
> the cab ?

I was standing some 100 meters after the platform. The loco and the
train just
went in the track next to me.

> I think you (or anyone else) should put together a tape of an entire
> journey complete with
> the sounds of the train and at a station etc. I'm sure all irfca
> subscribers would buy something
> like that !

Let us see - the sound quality has to be much better than that. The idea
is to
put the sounds on the internet so it can be experienced by all. WDM 2
and other
diesel sounds is no problem at all in Pune. What I have to find is a
cutting in
the land so that the sounds of the loco can be reflected well. I know of
one
place after Hadapsar which would be ideal for this. Surprisingly the
sounds I
have taped on the footplate of the YP/YG is totally washed out. The
overload of
the sounds caused the net result to be very diluted. A much better sound
can be
recorded from the door of the first coach, or if you are lucky from the
open
vestibule door.

Apurva

>
>
> Madhav

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: great news

Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:34:30 -0500

I too remember a WDM 2 (KJM or GY) at Pune with a cast iron works plate
which said (not sure of the text) Alco - 1962. This loco was in a good
shape. Many locos have Alco stamped on the cylinder head covers, while
the
others have DLW stamped on them.

Apurva

Harsh Vardhan wrote:

> Forwarded by Harsh
>
> Today while travelling to work place I spotted the famous WDM2
> 18233 (the first WDM2 to be built at DLW and released on 3rd jan
> 1964 by Sri Lal Bahadur Shastri). It is now allocated to the ANDEL
> Diesel Loco Shed on the Eastern Railway. Today I had the rare
> honour of travelling behind it from Newjalpaiguri to Jalpaiguri on the
> Haldibari Passenger.
> On the cab side a plate was depicting the following words
> BUILT AT THE
> DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES WORKS VARANASI
> IN COLLABORATION WITH
> ALCO PRODUCTS INC. USA
> The loco is in a poor shape. The short hood head light was missing
> and the cab condition was poor. I think this pioneer locomotive
> needs to be preserved. I will be very happy if you can talk to the
> Director NRM regarding this.

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: Help

Date: 19 Jan 1999 00:39:44 -0500

Harsh Vardhan wrote:

> Broad Gauge
>
> 1. Fairy Queen(b-1855) Express between Delhi and Alwar, twice every
month
> till February 1999. Can be chartered for special runs. Some other BG
> locos(WP/WL/Y-2/XE etc.) can be chartered for special runs. Contact
> Director, National Rail Museum, New Delhi.

Is true true ? There are WPs in a working order that can be chartered?
WOW !
Maybe when we have a world meet of IRFCA members at NDLS. Where are the
BG steam
locos held ? I was told by a nonrailfan person that Asansol shed has
still got
4 WGs in working order. Cannot confirm that until a trip is made to ASN.

Apurva

From: Jayant S <>

Subject: Re: 2C Cab

Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:16:59 -0500

> A scan of this pic possible ?
Soon as I get to the nearest dept with a scanner.
Couple of days.
> Is this a aircraft type throttle (T bar) ?
Looks like it on the pic.

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TEL 91(20)702534 : FAX 91(20)773191
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From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: CLAT - HWH/ NGP express at last

Date: 19 Jan 1999 01:22:55 -0500

CR advt out in the Times of India of 19th Jan 1999. Note the emphasis on the 'Rajdhani type coaches' , the CR does feel left out when the WR has so many of these trains. The CLAT - HWH would make a great train if it runs daily (and out of CSTM - may I wish ?) The CR has at last got out its kick of showing Amtrak/ Austalian locos in these ads - a WCM 5 and a Mumbai EMU is shown in the picture

Now you can buy season ticket with credit cards also: Season tickets can now be bought against your Credit Card at Season ticket counter Nos. 6 and 7 in Star Chamber booking office at CSTM. Two credit card machines have been installed at these counters to bring you this facility.

Two new, weekly Super Delux AC Express Trains with Rajdhani Type Coaches

KURLA (T) - HOWRAH - KURLA (T)
The regular service of weekly 2101 Dn./2102 Up Super Delux AC Express has commenced from 13.01.99 and 16.01.99 respectively.

Kurla(T)Dep.: 20.20 hrs. Howrah Arr.: 05.15 hrs. (Wednesdays) (Third day)
HowrahDep.: 06.00 hrs. Kurla (T) Arr.: 14.00 hrs. (Saturday) (Third day)
Stoppages: Kalyan, Igatpuri, Bhusaval, Akola, Badnera, Nagpur, Durg, Raipur, Bilaspur, Rourkela, Chakradharpur, Tatanagar and Kharagpur..

KURLA (T) - NAQPUR - KURLA (T)
The regular service of weekly 2103 Dn./2104 Up Super Delux AC Express has commenced from 18.01.99 and 19.01.99 respectively.
Kurla(T) Dep.: 20.20 hrs. Nagpur Arr.: 09.50 hrs. (Mondays)
Nagpur Dep.: 18.15 hrs. Kuria (T) Arr.: 07.40 hrs. (Tuesdays)
Stoppages: Kalyan, Igatpuri, Bhusaval, Akola, Badnera.
Composition of both the above trains: Five AC 3-tier, Three AC 2 tier, One AC First Class, One Pantry Car and Two Generator-cum-Luggage vans.
One AC 3 tier and one AC 2 tier on 2101 Dn./2102 Up and 2103 Dn./2104 Up available for Tatkal Service @ Rs. 150/- for AC 3 tier and Rs. 200/- for AC 2 tier

CR will introduce Tatkal" service in Sleeper Class on 1027 Dn. Dadar-Gorakhpur Express from 18.01.99 Ex-Dadar and from 20.01.99 Ex-Gorakhpur on 1028 Up Gorakhpur-Dadar Express
MUMBAI CST - MADGAON HOLIDAY SPECIAL EXTENDED The tri-weekly holiday special train running between Mumbai CST and Madgaon has now been extended from 19.01.99 to 17.03.99. Train No. 103 Dn. will leave CSTM on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays at 05.20 hrs. and reach Madgaon on the same day at 16.10 hrs. In Up direction, 104 Up will leave Madgaon on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays at 05.50 hrs. and reach CSTM at 16.40 hrs. on the same day. The train will halt at Thane, Panvel, Chiplun, Ratnagiri, Kudal and Karmali stations on both directions. The first extended Holiday Special will leave CSTM on Tuesday 19.01.99.
END TO END BOOKING CONDITION UNDER TATKAL SCNEME ON 2165 DN- RELAXED. Tatkal scheme available on 2165 Dn. Kuria (T) - Varanasi Superfast Express for booking from end to end stations is relaxed. Passengers can now book their tickets from Kuria (T) to Allahabad and beyond w.e.f. 20.01.99.

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: WDM 2 sounds

Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:26:18 -0500

Hello Apurva,
After some difficulty, I got #1 to work after all. As you say, its the
best of themall.
Thanks a lot pal.
You are doing all of us fellow rail-freaks a great service by bringing
us our favorite train rounds right upto our desktop!
May your tribe prosper.
Best regards.
Shankar

Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> Try the file WDM2_1.mp3 once again. I have re-uploaded it, and it
seems to work ok now.
> That is the best sound file amongst the three !
>
> Shankar wrote:
>
> > Hello Apurva,
> > Brilliant!
> > # 1 does not work: # 2 & 3 do.
> > Thanks!
> > Shankar
> >
> > Apurva Bahadur wrote:
> > >
> > > SORRY - I forgot to give you the URL !
> > >
> > > Gang !
> > >
> > > I have just uploaded some WDM 2 sounds in MP3 format. Please go to
my site and check
> > > them out. Get back to me with your comments. Definitely tell me if
they work properly
> > > or not with your computer.
> > > Go to:<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm</A>
> > >
> > > Apurva

From: Shankar <>

Subject: Re: WDM 2 sounds

Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:28:11 -0500

Hello,
As a sheer co-incidence, I too had downloaded winamp last week.
But Apurva's sound files were played back on Windows Media Player on my
computer.
Are they the same thing?
Best regards.
Shankar

Sridhar Shankar wrote:
>
> Apurva,
>
> Great job. #1 is incredible - wdm2 must have the sweetest sounding
horn
> anywhere. They all worked fine, I had some trouble getting #1 to work.
> Also had to download winamp player.
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> -Sridhar
>
> On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Apurva Bahadur wrote:
>
> > SORRY - I forgot to give you the URL !
> >
> > Gang !
> >
> > I have just uploaded some WDM 2 sounds in MP3 format. Please go to
my site and check
> > them out. Get back to me with your comments. Definitely tell me if
they work properly
> > or not with your computer.
> > Go to:<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm">http://members.tripod.com/~ApuB/index.htm</A>
> >
> > Apurva
> >

From: Apurva Bahadur <>

Subject: Re: [Fwd: 2C Cab]

Date: 19 Jan 1999 02:35:49 -0500

> , GOd knows why, and the short hood protrudes beyond
> side corner grilling(the inverted U shaped bar.....

I think what you are referring to is the 'Stanchion' bar found on all
the
four corners of a WDM 2. (meaning in the dictionary : upright posts for
supporting, bars for confining cattle in stalls etc)

> I also want to ask you why trains have been given extra
time
> on trunk routes that have multiple tracks. This is just one case.
There
> is an even more stunning example in Chennai-Mysore Cauvery exp. The
> train departs at 10.30 p.m from Chennai and reaches KJM at 5.30 am and
> then starts at KJM only at 6.10 am and enters SBC at 6.30a.m. A full
40
> minutes at a little suburb of Bangalore. it has happened twice till
now.

Although not the trunk line, the trains from Kolhapur towards Pune and
Mumbai also arrive in time or before time. Then the train wait for
atleast
30 - 45 minutes or even 1 hour before being taken into Pune Jn. Most of
the
clever junta get off at Ghorpadi and go home in a rickshaw, reaching
much
before the Sahyadri Express is allowed into Pune. Railnuts like us
ofcourse
try to stay in the train as long as possible :-) . The reason for this
delay
seems to be the lack of platforms at Pune in the morning rush hour for
this
train. There is also an unofficial reason that the CR (which operates
Pune
Jn) does not care much for SC trains of Hubli division. The CR
management at
Mumbai will have the Pune staff's skin, if the Deccan Queen or Pragati
were
to be delayed. Similar sloth can be observed with the incoming locos
who
have brought these trains to Pune. Sometimes the Hubli division staff
has to
wait for a long time in a siding before being allowed to back to the
shed at
Ghorpadi.
God knows what future holds for Pune Jn with no space for expansion
either
lengthwise or widthwise.

Apurva

From: Krishnan Anand <>

Subject: Re: 2C Cab

Date: 19 Jan 1999 03:11:22 -0500

Hi all,

>> A scan of this pic possible ?
>Soon as I get to the nearest dept with a scanner.
>Couple of days.
>> Is this a aircraft type throttle (T bar) ?
>Looks like it on the pic.

No ! i guess not. It was like a hand brake of a car in an upright
position atleast in the loco that i saw. It would not differ between
locos i am sure. Imagine a miniature version of a track changing lever
that we see at the end of stations. It was something like that.

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Anand.K
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